In an interview with Bishop Vivian Thomas-Breitfeld, during the African Descent Lutheran Assembly, prior to her resignation. We noted that in separate decades, we both served on the Candidacy Committee in Upstate New York. Dr. Ed Perry, her Bishop encouraged her to give seminary a try, as her husband was a student in Chicago, IL at McCormick Seminary.
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